4 Inches using AVID 2.5 inch lift and the ATP Lift Springs.

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IDoMy0wnRacing

Discussion Starter · Oct 13, 2019

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I finally got some of the part I ordered in, AVID Radius PreRunner front bumper, AVID Radius rear bumper with tire carrier, AVID 2.5 inch lift (I specified the CNC’d Billet 7050 T74) and the ATP Lift Springs.

Bilstien B6 struts and a Warn Winch VR8-S

The first thing I did was strip it down; Front Bumper, Rear Bumpers and finder liners (if the Rocky-Road Outfitter’s Rock Sliders had come in, I would have removed the rocker panels also).

Knocked out the Pinch Weld modification for larger tires (to come), treated the area with spray-on bed liner and covered that with VHT High temp paint (probably a little over kill).

Then I went with the Front Bumper with winch and the Front half of the Lift kit.

I continued with the Rear Lift then finished up with the Rear Bumper.

… it's funny, the closer you get to finishing, the fewer pictures get taken.

Reinstalled the ATP Carrier Bearing Skid Plate, ATP Differential Skid Plate and the MagnaFlow Cat-Back exhaust.

Off to the Alignment shop...
... Everything aligned to specification.

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michael18lattatude4x4

· #2 · Oct 18, 2019

nice kit man, so y is the teraflex kit not as good as avid cuz i noticed tht avids dose not drop diffs and carrier. how a
has your cv axles hold up did you do the strut mod ?

IDoMy0wnRacing

Discussion Starter · #3 · Oct 18, 2019

michael18lattatude4x4 said:
nice kit man, so y is the teraflex kit not as good as avid cuz i noticed tht avids dose not drop diffs and carrier. how a
has your cv axles hold up did you do the strut mod ?

I didn't say that the TeraFlex kit wasn't any good, I said that I used the AVID kit. Actually, I like the TeraFlex instructions better. I like that the AVID kit comes with the rear lower control arms, that the others do not.
The AVID kit DOES use the Differential and carrier spacers.

No issues with the axles.
Bilstein struts do not require the any modifications, because the Bilstein struts do not have the lower lip like the OEM struts do that would make contact with the half-shaft.

michael18lattatude4x4

· #4 · Oct 19, 2019

sry i did not meen to imply that you did i was just wondering becouse a few other have said that the subframe drop in the teraflex kit deffts purpus of lift and when looked at the avid kit looked simpler but as my latitude is stock did not want to have shop tell me they cant pit it on as it dose not fit as i dont have time to install it my self at this point trying to do peice at time cost wise

IDoMy0wnRacing

Discussion Starter · #5 · Oct 19, 2019

I would go with the AVID kit. Mainly because I used the AVID kit, I installed it myself, and I know it works/will fit.

michael18lattatude4x4

· #6 · Oct 19, 2019

sweet thx for advice it is apreciated

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michael18lattatude4x4

· #7 · Oct 22, 2019

so just wondering how long avid take for production as they said they ouy of stock on there 1.5 kit so may go with speings from eibach first any thoughts as at this stage i still have factory warrenty and they say anything over 2 voids warrenty but they could not tell if that was aplicable to the springs when said trail hawk has springs that give it extra .8 inch they were clueless they had to call me back after talking to upper manage ment.

IDoMy0wnRacing

Discussion Starter · #8 · Oct 22, 2019

That is hard to say.
Most places build kits in bulk. They might not even start building more kits until they have enough kits ordered (back ordered) to cover the expense.

IF over 2 inch may void the warranty, sounds like you'll just have to go 2 inches.
Maybe their 2 inch kit is in stock??
http://www.avid.red/product/avid-economy-2-renegade-lift-kit/
… maybe.

E. Adriaan

· #9 · Aug 10, 2020

IDoMy0wnRacing said:
I finally got some of the part I ordered in, AVID Radius PreRunner front bumper, AVID Radius rear bumper with tire carrier, AVID 2.5 inch lift (I specified the CNC'd Billet 7050 T74) and the ATP Lift Springs.

Bilstien B6 struts and a Warn Winch VR8-S

The first thing I did was strip it down; Front Bumper, Rear Bumpers and finder liners (if the Rocky-Road Outfitter's Rock Sliders had come in, I would have removed the rocker panels also).

Knocked out the Pinch Weld modification for larger tires (to come), treated the area with spray-on bed liner and covered that with VHT High temp paint (probably a little over kill).

Then I went with the Front Bumper with winch and the Front half of the Lift kit.

I continued with the Rear Lift then finished up with the Rear Bumper.

… it's funny, the closer you get to finishing, the fewer pictures get taken.

Reinstalled the ATP Carrier Bearing Skid Plate, ATP Differential Skid Plate and the MagnaFlow Cat-Back exhaust.

Off to the Alignment shop...
... Everything aligned to specification.

Hi,

I have a Renegade Trail Hawk and interested in the mods you have done to your car. Did you consider the Eibach springs when looking to replace your current one? Do you know if they are the same size?

Curious why you replaced the struts as well?

How is the new suspension holding up since install? Any problems or issues?

I am considering going down the same route as you with the Avid products. How was your experience dealing with them and their products?

Many thanks,

Adriaan

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IDoMy0wnRacing

Discussion Starter · #10 · Aug 12, 2020

E. Adriaan said:
Hi,

I have a Renegade Trail Hawk and interested in the mods you have done to your car. Did you consider the Eibach springs when looking to replace your current one? Do you know if they are the same size?

Curious why you replaced the struts as well?

How is the new suspension holding up since install? Any problems or issues?

I am considering going down the same route as you with the Avid products. How was your experience dealing with them and their products?

Many thanks,

Adriaan

W E L C O M E ! ! ! to the forum.

Eibach makes the springs for American Trail Products (ATP), ATP springs get a red powder coating treatment (I really wanted the Red springs).

Struts start to usually brake down at around 50,000 miles, and since I was taking the strut assemblies apart to replace the springs anyways, why not. Bilstein B6 Struts and Shock have always done me good.

No suspension problems at all after 12000 miles, and I drove it pretty hard.

I didn't have any problems with AVID. I know that shipping can be a little slow at the times due to low stock.
I called AVID before I ordered just so that I was aware of any inventory issues.
... that, and I made a big purchase when I did make my order.

Good luck with your build.

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E. Adriaan

· #11 · Aug 14, 2020

Thanks.

I read somewhere that the ATP springs provides 2” lift while then Eibach only gives 1” (on TH models).

What is the part number from the Bilstein B6 shocks? and do they provide greater travel compared to the OEM shocks on the TH? (Im guessing with the taller springs there is more wheel travel).

I love your build

IDoMy0wnRacing

Discussion Starter · #12 · Aug 17, 2020

E. Adriaan said:
Thanks.

I read somewhere that the ATP springs provides 2" lift while then Eibach only gives 1" (on TH models).

What is the part number from the Bilstein B6 shocks? and do they provide greater travel compared to the OEM shocks on the TH? (Im guessing with the taller springs there is more wheel travel).

I love your build

Thanks.

No, they wont provide any additional travel, just a better ride.

The problem with the renegade is the unibody construction. you will get more wheel float than articulation. lol

But it is still a fun ride.

E. Adriaan

· #13 · Aug 18, 2020

Ah, better ride = good

Do you remember what the part numbers for the Bilstein B6 shocks are. Do you also happen to know what Bilstein shocks provide additional lift?

IDoMy0wnRacing

Discussion Starter · #14 · Aug 18, 2020

22280909
22280886
22280893
22280916

These are the part numbers for the B6 struts that I used.

I do not have the numbers for the Bilstein's that provide lift, because they are prone to bending.
Because they bend easy, I wasn't going to use them.

E. Adriaan

· #15 · Aug 19, 2020

Awesome, many thanks for that

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